aquartz vs wolfs nano

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by billyblooshoes, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. billyblooshoes

    billyblooshoes DB Forum Supporter

    im not sure which to get. aquartz is 40ml and costs slightly more. ive heard you can MAYBE get 2 cars out of one bottle. also heard promising things about wolfs body wrap, which is slightly cheaper, and comes in a 150ml bottle. how many cars will this cover roughly? just cant make a decision.
     
  2. hamza7

    hamza7 Welcome to Detailing

    I say try the Wolfs I "Hear" it's excellent let's hope the Europeans are not making something out of nothing, plus the product comes from a very reputable detailer. I actually have AQuartz on my car but that's because I got 80mL for $10 through my local supplier(he was clearing out). I also had a 15mL bottle from before and used aprox. 55mL over 2 coats on '10 Honda Accord. I can't compliment enough the big beads you get on your car but lets be real I feel like it's all about the self cleaning and gloss properties we are mostly worried about. Last time there was a lot of rain fall most of the larger contaminates washed away in the rain and since it can be applied to glass I never had to use the wipers. I think a gloss meter would blow up if placed on my car and I don't even have perfect paint(complimenting the product not my skills). Lastly I haven't washed the car in 5 weeks because I have been extremely busy with other things and it stills looks decent but if you see Jesse's U-Tube videos it looks like "everything" washes away with a simple rinse and really that's what I am looking for.
     
  3. Greg Nichols

    Greg Nichols Birth of a Detailer

    Well I've been using wolfs for several months now. Had some issues with applying it, but using an old MF cut into a 2x2" works best as an applicator. The key to any coating is to have VERY dry paint, the softer the paint the more likely it will hold onto some water vapor, leave the car in the sun for a few hours, allow to cool and then apply. IF you suspect the paint is not completly dry, allow the coating to dry in the sun for a few days before washing. So far the durability has been very good, half my hood is OC and the other half is wolfs body wrap. So far in the 3 months I can see no difference between the two. Now the OC has been on for just shy of a year and going strong, so the wolfs has some stiff competition.

    I have also used the wolfs glass sealant, that seems to be excellent stuff.

    If you haven't tried the nano trim dressing, this is a huge favorite of mine too.

    cheers,
    GREG
     
  4. bryansbestwax

    bryansbestwax DB Forum Supporter

    Billy is talking new aquartz, you have the old version when avi used to sell it. Its a whole different product now.
     
  5. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Both are off different technologies, Aquartz is a Si coatings that should last a year or more (similar to Opt Opti-Coat, Cquartz, Gtech C1) where as Wolfs Body Wrap is not a Si based coating and should be durability in the 4-5 month range with proper care, it is similar to Gtech C2 and Nanolex Nanowax.
     
  6. froboy272

    froboy272 Obsessive Detailer

    I thought bodywrap was supposed to have durability far surpassed 6 months? As in a year or better...
     
  7. LostHighway

    LostHighway Jedi Nuba

    I was under the impression that Optimum OptiCoat and OptiGuard were not silane-type coatings. Whatever the formula they do seem to have better documented durability than most of the competition.
     
  8. billyblooshoes

    billyblooshoes DB Forum Supporter

    this is why i cant decide. seems theres conflicting reports for both lol
     
  9. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Opti-coat may not be a Si based coating but it is a long term coating system (i forgot the exact tech used) but Wolf to the best i know is not a permanent type coating and more like C2 a high durability sealant. Some have said they gotten 1 year I think Jessie said that but dont know in what conditions, people on DW are saying 5ish months maybe 6 on avg is what they are seeing and is picky on surface it goes on (must be 100% clean) and what QDs and soaps you use. I did buy and and do plan on trying it out but it will have to be much better than C2 to stay in the lineup for me.
     
  10. Wolfs Chemicals

    Wolfs Chemicals DB Certified Manufacturer

    Hi guys!

    So Body Wrap is a true coating as it becomes part of the paint. The little "nano monkeys" lodge themselves into the paint and form a very strong bond with it. I just call it a "sealant" :). the durability will vary with paint types, the way it's cared for, etc. but all nano coatings require special care to keep them at their best meaning they should be applied to clean surfaces, washed with special shampoos, etc.

    Body Wrap should last for anywhere from 6 months to over a year... it's really subjective! Here's a video of the sheeting after 6 months and keep in mind that this was in the dead of winter (January) when we did the video and the car had already been through tons of snow and salt and had also been washed with non-nano friendly shampoos

    Wolf's Chemicals nano sealant after 6 months - YouTube

    No the beading isn't "great" but after being beaten by the harsh winters we have here in Hungary, it's still pretty impressive. Since then, the car has been treated with the nano QD once and that was back in the Spring... it's now nearing the end of August and the protection is still very much there :). We're going to be doing a video of it soon!

    Jesse
     
  11. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Does it form a "permanant' bond (chemical alteration of polyurethane) or more of an attraction bond?

    I also now have a picture of barrel of monkeys in my mind now haha

    [​IMG]

     
  12. Wolfs Chemicals

    Wolfs Chemicals DB Certified Manufacturer

    Yes it's a "permanent" bond. In theory if you only wash your car with water, the sealant could last for the life of your car... but other elements and such won't allow that.
     
  13. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    So the only way to remove body wrap will be light polishing, i.e. strong washes or APCs will not remove it? Just trying to get some info as I will be using it and like to know....i have always thought/read it was not a permanent coating and could be removed with something like Opt Power Clean wash or something similar.
     
  14. Wolfs Chemicals

    Wolfs Chemicals DB Certified Manufacturer

    Yep the only way to remove it prematurely is by polishing it! APC will affect the beading a bit, but it won't remove it! Here's a video I made of me beating the hell out of the sealant with 1:4 APC and a wash mitt... didn't really budge :)

    [video=youtube;NIPZ28faX3s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIPZ28faX3s[/video]
     
  15. detailersdomain

    detailersdomain Administrator

    I'm going to say you won't go wrong with either one, we just did the Body Wrap on the 911 GT2RS and boy oh boy it does look good.

    The application is easy as well.

    Aquartz you all know I support this product as well.
     
  16. billyblooshoes

    billyblooshoes DB Forum Supporter

    thanks for all the great feedback guys.

    jesse: how many cars can one get of out a bottle of body wrap? im mainly concerned with this honestly, because i have a new big time client coming up (with a collection including a phantom and slantnose, so hes expecting top notch), so they wont be getting driven too much. durability is an issue, but if i can get two or more cars out of one bottle of body wrap rather than just one car per 40ml bottle of aquartz, ill go with body wrap.

    im going to ask a lot of quetions about both products because id like to go nano coating on these two cars, but im extremely hesitant about using a product i havent used before on such high end vehicles (and a brand new client).
     
  17. detailersdomain

    detailersdomain Administrator

    we did the P car this weekend and used so little it didn't even put a dent in the bottle, of course a 911 is not exactly huge
     
  18. billyblooshoes

    billyblooshoes DB Forum Supporter

    with aquartz? how many coats did you do? the cars are rolls royces, lot of real estate, so im trying to gauge how much ill need.
     
  19. detailersdomain

    detailersdomain Administrator

    2 coats of body wrap - super wet!
     
  20. Wolfs Chemicals

    Wolfs Chemicals DB Certified Manufacturer

    On average about 10 ml per car... the bottle is 150 ml, so roughly 15 cars/bottle, but perhaps more!
     

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