Before and After: PW and BW

Discussion in 'Car Detailing Product Discussion' started by Chaseme, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. Chaseme

    Chaseme DB Forum Supporter

    I love this stuff.

    But to be honest, I don't find it to adhere to smooth black trim as well. But where it shines is on textured plastics like these spots on my sister's Fit.

    A little goes a LONG way. I imagine I'll have these bottles my whole life.

    Dryness -> Blackness:

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  2. JoeyZ

    JoeyZ Obsessive Detailer

    What did you apply it with? How does it look after a rain storm? I find that sometimes it gets blotchy..
     
  3. Chaseme

    Chaseme DB Forum Supporter

    Applied with an all-purpose MF towel. After looking at it since it rained a few days ago, I will have to do another coating of BW just to make it double protected.
     
  4. Richard@BlackWow

    Richard@BlackWow DB Certified Manufacturer

    The secret to using Black Wow effectively is to allow time for it to soak into the plastics. The most common reason for users not getting expected results is because they try to use BW like a typical trim dressing.

    Follow these steps and you will get the best results.

    1.) Allow BW time to absorb. Use enough product to coat the plastic, and let it absorb for several days. Time your application so that you will wash your car after the product has had time to absorb. If the material is highly oxidized and turns grey within a hours or days after application, apply a bit more as you want to saturate the plastic.

    2.) If you have been using another product on the plastic, you MUST clean it thoroughly, preferably with Pre-Wow. Pre-Wow is a cleaner and used properly will clean and prep the surface for Black Wow. Pre-Wow is best used as a cleaner, then rinsing it off with soap water. Again, you could time your application to do PW first on the entire vehicle, then do a full wash on it. PW doesn't need time to absorb. You just apply it, scrub it with the included brush, work it in, buff it with a painters rag. The plastic will look uniform and dark, but the darkness is temporary. Use a bit of soap water to remove the PW, and you can use air to blow it dry. The surface should be uniform with no traces of wax/polish residue. This is a great way to check that you've fully removed any embedded polish/wax residue. I'll use a tiny dab of Dawn on a wet microfiber towel and use that to wipe the PW treated area, then use air to blow it dry.

    3.) Next apply BW over this pretreated area using the method described in step #1.

    Notes:
    Blotchy applications mean that BW couldn't properly absorb into the plastic, likely due to previous product applications preventing proper absorption.
    Proper application of BW is dark, matte, and uniform, not shiny or wet look. It might look that way during the initial application before it's had time to fully absorb.
    If you apply BW heavy and wet hours before a rainstorm, before it's had time to fully absorb, common sense says that the excess will run off on to adjacent surfaces.
    If you're washing with a foam cannon, simply foaming and rinsing is probably not enough to remove any excess, BW. If your goal is to remove the excess by washing, then use a mitt or sponge on the trim parts and lightly wipe it. The excess will be minimal after its been given time to absorb.
    BW works on smooth matte plastics as well, but it just takes longer for it to absorb. Give it the time it needs and you will be rewarded.
    Using the Black Wow Systeme (BW & PW), users are reporting durability measured many times longer than using BW alone.
    I like to apply BW with a microfiber sponge applicator, although sometimes a foam paint brush, or a towel or even round foam applicator can be used. It just depends on where it is being applied.

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    Removing NXT Tech Wax from a Honda Element that a customer tried fruitlessly to fix..he was ready to change out the plastics to fiberglass panels.
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    PW washed off with a damp towel and some dish soap and now ready to BW
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    Not the best picture..only had my POS available at this time. BW applied only to fender panel with reflector. Difference is noticeable between that and adjacent panels. Customer said it looked just like it was brand new.
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    PW and BW treatment on Dodge 2500 RAM..fins haven't been treated yet
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  5. Kilo6_one

    Kilo6_one DB Forum Supporter

    I did exactly how Richard notes...... on a suburban that has those black plastic fender flares. It lasted almost 3-4 months before it started to degrade, it is indoor parked and washed in a car wash.

    This is an outstanding product, as with everything best results come from reading and following instructions.

    I have not tried Pre-wow.
     
  6. Kaban

    Kaban Welcome to Detailing

    I should recommend this product to a friend of mine. He has a 2002 black Chevy Avalanche and basically the lower half of the car is made of that textured plastic trim that has faded a long time ago and looks nasty.
     
  7. mrd0t

    mrd0t Obsessive Detailer

    Oh, I hate those! So much Plastic!
     
  8. Chaseme

    Chaseme DB Forum Supporter

    Thanks Richard.
     
  9. Gale Force

    Gale Force Obsessive Detailer

    Good thread! I will be purchasing some in the future.
     
  10. Richard@BlackWow

    Richard@BlackWow DB Certified Manufacturer

    You're welcome!!
    Awesome, thanks!!
     
  11. Richard@BlackWow

    Richard@BlackWow DB Certified Manufacturer

    He will definitely want to start off with the PW first to thoroughly clean the plastic. In fact, if he just cleaned it with PW, and washed it off, he'd probably be happy with the improvement. When the plastic gets old and oxidized, it not only turns grey and chalky, but it's usually splotchy as well. PW cleans the surface making it uniform. During the initial application, it will turn dark just like what BW does, but it won't last. It's just a by product of the cleaners that we use. That's why you need to then follow with BW.

    He could also just start off with BW, but if he wants to do it and pretty much forget about it, the PW/BW combo is the best.

    Richard

     
  12. GloomyX

    GloomyX Birth of a Detailer

    1) I am guessing PW and BW is only for exterior use? Any interior trims should be use with interior detailer?
    2) Can I apply this to the metal portion of a windshield wiper?
     
  13. Kilo6_one

    Kilo6_one DB Forum Supporter

    you saw what it did to that honda above....... yeah, it would be a good product to use.
     
  14. Richard@BlackWow

    Richard@BlackWow DB Certified Manufacturer

    Yep! BW is intended as a very durable exterior trim product. It can be used for the interior as long as it's an area that doesn't come into contact with anybody. BW won't naturally weather on the interior and will remain wet/shiny looking and that's not how it was meant to be. For that reason I don't like it on the dash. Besides, there are plenty of interior products that work well since the demands for durability are much lower on interior dressings. As Kilo6_one said..absolutely, it can be used on the painted metal portions. If you want just a uniform and flat look, PW is best used instead of BW.

     

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