Cheaper Alternatives to P21S?

Discussion in 'Car Detailing Product Discussion' started by Denzil, Jul 4, 2008.

  1. Denzil

    Denzil Guest

    So are there any cheaper alternatives to P21S TAW and Gel? We all know that P21S products are great products but they are on the pricey side, at least for me anyways.

    I did some light research and was thinking that CG's CWG diluted correctly could be comparable to P21S. Is there anything else out there that compares to P21S that's also not hazardous to your health? If I remember correctly, P21S is pretty safe correct?
     
  2. detaildoc

    detaildoc Guest

    CG CWG is probably a good choice.
     
  3. Nica

    Nica Banned

    After using Meg's Wheel Brightener it's not that bad but not something you'd want to use on a regular basis...but I have heard that eShine's APC is a great replacement...regrettably I never got a chance to use it but I'm just going by what others have said here.

    Besides, I know Chris and know that he wouldn't come up with junk, so I'd recommend his APC :peace:
     
  4. Usjdmtuner

    Usjdmtuner Wax on..Wax off

    according from ADS, Megs shampoo is not strong enough to strip wax.. its based on maintanance only but i would assume that the Megs superdegreaser would work and body solvent... i havent used wheel brightener but i have it on my list... really tempted on getting p21s taw and gel but funds is not letting me..
     
  5. 911Fanatic

    911Fanatic DB Pro Supporter

    I have used Menz 7.5 Wheel cleaner and it works great. I use Autoglym Custom Wheel Cleaner on a daily basis. It is my current non-acid favorite. It is available in gallons as well. Autoglyms Engine and Machine Cleaner is also a good non acid choice. It is a multipurpose cleaner like TAW and is very economical when bought in 1 Gal containers. The one gallon containers are sold as "Powermax 2 or 3 " and should be available through your local Autoglym rep.
     
  6. Denzil

    Denzil Guest

    Hmm, I can't seem to find it on his site. I'm hoping I can find a small offering so I can compare it with my P21S.

    I just washed my sister's car that I had just polished a couple days ago and did a TECnique wipe down. At first when I did the entire pre-rinse, there was surprisingly a lot of beading and I suppose my wipe down wasn't sufficient? Anyway, I decided to do a pre-soak with my Gilmour so that its dilution was 1 oz of soap per gallon of water. Then I followed that up with the 2BM with the wash solution having 2 gallons of water with 3 oz of Shampoo Plus. Rinsing it down with hose water, much of the car seemed like it was stripped of whatever was left on the car's surface as most of the water just sat on the paint. I thought that was interesting.

    I haven't tried Super Degreaser or Body Solvent yet but I think I may be purchasing those soon. Plus if I don't like them, my local distributor will gladly take them back if I'm not happy with them. :)

    Wheel Brightener is some pretty good stuff. However, like everyone else has sad, I definitely wouldn't use it on a regular basis. This is where P21S shines, hehe.

    I'll look into the Menz wheel cleaner and Autoglym stuff. They sound promising.
     
  7. J BELL

    J BELL Nuba Guru

    Denzil, i have a gallon of Meg's Super Degreaser..would be happy to send you a sample if you want to try it out, im not sure of the dilution, i have heard people using it on tires and such and meg's recommends wetting the entire panel around the tire so that overspray doesnt cause staining of the paint....are you looking into this as like a presoak to remove protection such as that of TAW? I would be careful here because of Meg's precautions, but that is just me...let me know via PM if i can help you try this product in any way
     
  8. Denzil

    Denzil Guest

    Yeah, I'm looking at using it as a presoak, exactly like TAW. TAW is definitely awesome stuff and was thinking that if I can cash out on cheaper comparable products, I'll stick with them.
     
  9. matrix_808

    matrix_808 DB Supporter

    How would you dilute CWG to act as a degreaser/cleaner?
     
  10. Denzil

    Denzil Guest

    That I haven't figured out yet, LoL. I have 32 oz of CWG to play with so I hope I have enough to find a good mixture.
     
  11. Usjdmtuner

    Usjdmtuner Wax on..Wax off

    where do you buy your autoglym products? TCPGLOBAL.COM?
     
  12. 911Fanatic

    911Fanatic DB Pro Supporter

    Actually I have a local rep who comes to see me every few weeks. I looked up TCP and they carry Engine & Machine Cleaner. If you want Powermax 2 or 3 you may have to contact the US distributor at radiantusa@juno.com If you don't have any luck, let me know and I'll help you out.
     
  13. budman3

    budman3 Birth of a Detailer

    How about S100 Total Cycle cleaner??? it's cheaper than the P21S TAW ... if this is as similar as their waxes then I don't think you can go wrong...
     
  14. Usjdmtuner

    Usjdmtuner Wax on..Wax off

    i want to get gallons .. can you help me out and how much do you pay?
     
  15. Denzil

    Denzil Guest

    That's true and the their wheel cleaner is similar to P21S Gel as well. Now I'm just wondering if I can get them in a larger size quantity. :shead:
     
  16. 911Fanatic

    911Fanatic DB Pro Supporter

    Let me check with my rep and I'll let you know. I usually buy in 20 litre containers.
     
  17. Gemini13

    Gemini13 Obsessive Detailer

    Not sure what the dilution ratio would be but a combination of CWG and CG Strong wash in one of your sprayer bottles (Solo or whatever there called) would make for a great pre soak.
     
  18. FMINUS

    FMINUS DB Pro Supporter

    CG is coming out with a GEL wheel cleaner soon :)
     
  19. Gemini13

    Gemini13 Obsessive Detailer

    Are they ever gonna update there site with there new products?? They would would probably sell a lot more if it were up to date.
     
  20. FMINUS

    FMINUS DB Pro Supporter

    Probably not any time soon, CG is always behind with updating. A lot of their products are really "official" and most of the orders are phoned in.

    A lot of items dont get the green light after testing. i.e. Speedarmor357
     

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