Our New President

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  1. P1et

    P1et Official DB Moderator

    I couldn't vote, so I didn't vote for either. I don't agree with Obama's wealth distribution, that is for sure.
     
  2. HPIA4v2

    HPIA4v2 Birth of a Detailer

    People can say what they want cause this is open forum and free country so....


    Distribution of wealth is not new, just look at the progressive tax we have now, the rich paying more in tax than the poor (dollar for dollar or pecentage just look it up), and the tax money pays for our security, freedom and education. Last time I look that sounds like distributing wealth policy already so why the outcry now???


    The sad thing for me is why this has to be HISTORIC moment? From a country who is the beacon of the world? I am glad it's reality.

    Before you go off let see.

    AMERICA: China clean up your human right problem now!
    CHINA: Wait who hang their minority peoples of the trees 40 years ago.
    AMERICA: Sorry I forgot about that


    AMERICA: India clean up that child labor of yours
    INDIA: Wait who put children and women in slavery 100 years ago.
    AMERICA: oops


    Now the world will listen to us more beacuse we are not bigot. That is historic moment and yes we can.
     
  3. Calgarydetail

    Calgarydetail Getting to know Detailing

    I know you mean this half hearlty, or not at all but i was wondering why canada? i have always wonderded this. Canada has more social prgrams, more help for the poor and less of a rich class. We cant carry concealed guns EVER we have to have a permit to own one period.
    All people in Canada are equal, we hae the righ to same sex marrgie, non discrimination laws, we have a true seperation of church in stat (i cannot remeber ever hearing from a political leader that they had divine intervention or that they will bring into gods law. ok i lied there was one and he got like2% of the vote, we dont like it when politicains speak relgion) we spend millions every year helping the world from diease and famine.
    All these things we hold to
    Life is more socialist in Canada then it is going to be under Obama. our conservitive goverment is more liberal then your liberal goverment. Im not sure canada is the place for mccain supporters, perhaps mexico?
     
  4. Hum-Benz

    Hum-Benz Wax on..Wax off

    I thought of the same thing when I read his post. Canada definitely ISN'T the place for us McCain followers to go.
     
  5. Calgarydetail

    Calgarydetail Getting to know Detailing

    the best part of it is that all Canadians hold these to be truths. I know some of the richest people in Canada and they are glad we have plublic health care and that people cant walk around with guns. They are happy its illegal to own any sort of automatic weapon.
    We are glad we have a leading party and a party of opposition (next largest party n the house of commons) to make sure they dont make a big mistake.
    These are all things Canadians are very proud of. We welcome anyone so the mccain supportes can come but relize life will be diffrent :applause2::thumb:
     
  6. Purplewidow

    Purplewidow Obsessive Detailer

    you know i never saw so many people get fooled.. all obama did was lie stating McCain is excatly like bush.. when he couldn't be more different.. McCain separated himself from bush a long time ago fighting him on many many issues.. McCain is a MAN who fought for this country and always put this country first as he so prominently stated during congradulation obama.. it really is sad to see a man that has done so much good for this country get jerked around by a guy who has been in the senate for 34 years and has done nothing for this country.. he hasn't elected any bills or anything.. in three years he was only in session 178 days stating present the most not voting on issues.. and now he wants to increase capitol gains by 18%.. that's the whole countries money invested taxed 18% more.. why give the government more money.. it is a historic day because a half black half white guy won the presidencey.. why? that just separates us more b/c a black guy did it.. that is racist in itself. what a gracious beautiful speech McCain gave.. something obama could only dream about.. a man with no experience yet he is fit to run this country? i live in illinois and in chicago and he hasn't done shit for our state or city... actually our fine city of chicago has a nice 10.5% sales tax.. highest in the whole country..thx democrats!!

    seriously what a sad day.. the greater man truly lost.. a man with more respect and admiration for this country than obama could ever dream.. obama has taken sooooo much money from the tax payers already taking millions from fannie and freddie.. the wo who really helped this country tank in the mortgage sector.. and now he wants to tax us literally and take more money from americans and give it to the government to mismanage.. the democrats spend much much more $$$ than the republicans.. and after the depression in the 30's we learned to NOT tax anyone.. and he is gonna tax the upper class and small and medium size businesses that have been keeping this country alive.. and tax the blue collared workers in whatever they choose to invest in for there kids or for there retirement.. how is this good?

    if you look at his plans historically similar idea's has really hurt this country.. and they are old democrat methods.. the mortgage crisis was caused by the democrats alone!!! and again obama was a HUGE player in that. his idea's are pure socialism..not american not free.. he wants everything to be equal.. well if some idiot is working 40 hours a week making 40k a year and another guy is working 80 hours a week making 300k a year why would you help the guy making 40k if he doesn't wanna put in the effort.. you know how many people i ask would you work 80 hours a week? 90% say no never.. well my father grew up poor as hell on the south side.. worked 2 jobs to put himself through school.. he made it.. he still works 80 hours a week and he is 60.. i have many minority friends that work that hard too and they make 100k-200k a year working 60-80 hours a week. if you don't wanna work hard you will never get anywhere no matter how much money you throw at people.. the more you throw the lazier people will get.. today there are more scholarships for minorities than acedemic scholarships.. what does that say about us.. so if your white and poor you don't have as good a chance as someone that is black and poor.. isn't that wrong.. shouldn't it be equal.. shouldn't we as a country stop making excuses for minorites.. a black reverend stated that the mexicans have come farther in 2 generations than the blacks have in 200 years in america.. b/c they focus on family values and education.. he call obama the anti christ for all the excuses he makes for minorities.. and it is sooo true.. and these idiots saying today i am soooo proud.. proud of what? a guy who has done nothing in our government is president and you are proud b/c he is a certain color.. my black friends would smack the #$%% out of you and call you racist. and the idiots in europe are sooo PC it is destoring there c=economy.. hell in britain muslims don't have to operate on christians or the dentist who wouldn't work on a christian... i mean come on.. what is this world coming to. the media has scewed everything McCain has done for this country.. he is the most democratic republican reaching over countless times to democrats.. obama says he wants to but he never has. what does that say about his unity plan.. McCain was much much farther ahead.. it is truly a shame.. i think McCain's heart felt beautiful speech says it all about McCain and his passion for this country and only after the fact has Obama acknowledged this.. our economy is going to go further in the shitter and they will all blame bush.. it's really going to be funny. this should have nothing to do with racism.. this should have to do with our country and getting someone qualified. obama has no experience.. in two years you will all see how bad he is gonna screw us all. it might take 20 years to undo what he plans to do. i hope he seriously changes his economic plan.. for every economist calls it a disaster plan.. but people voted for it.. funny just proves europe right in how many stupid americans there are. and yes i know europe is happy to not have a gun slinger in office but during tough economic times that is what you want.. a tough EXTREMELY HONEST man with passion for america.. a man who gave his whole life to this country.. this is the first election i am very sad.. you could see all the passion he has to get this country going. well obama just states he is just like bush.. esp NOT funny when this whole mortgage crisis was 100% democrat. with countless republicans saying this was a disaster waiting to happen. wake up people all you have to do is do your own research and not believe everything the media says and you will know.. the media is controlled by the democrats.. hello you all got punked.. why would people vote in a guy who has direct relation to the companies that caused this crisis. i don't care if a guy is half black 10 % russian 10 % chinese 10% korean and 10% alien from mars.. i could care les about a man's color.. and the presidency shouldn't stoop that low.. our people shouldn't care about color and at least 10-15% of this country that is what they voted for and that is sad.
     
  7. Peugeot

    Peugeot Birth of a Detailer

    When given a choice between Socialism Lite (McCain) and Socialism (Obama), people will pick socialism everytime. You can't me-too leftist ideas. McCain had his good points was an awful candidate. He was my next to last pick in the primaries. Crossover Dem voters in the primaries and Hucksterbee killed off the last half-decent candidate (Romney) ensuring this poor choice. This was uphill all the way. From Bush's inability/unwillingness to lead on domestic issues to McCain saying things like he'd pick Andrew Cuomo for Treasury to the terrible handling of Palin. Only Huckabee was worse.

    President-elect Obama got 63 million votes - just what W got in 04. But he won by 5 million. Where did those votes go? A number stayed home. Plus, there was a number of non-political types who thought it's time to elect a black man. Plus, Obama looks and sounds very Presidential. For many people, this was the only equasion made. These people might not have signed up for socialism or even know what it is. But most won't like it if (more like when) it comes.

    Its disappointing but not surprising to me.

    Let's see how he governs. After all, he won the election fair and square. If he's a stellar Democrat who is honest and consevative like Harry Truman then he's easily in for two terms. If he's a clown like Carter, then he might just be a one termer. But, I'm pretty sure he won't get the luck that Clinton had where no real disasters raised their head.

    He's got the world's toughest job. I wish him luck, but like the Chinese proverb says, we're going to live in interesting times.

    P

    Want my tax cut, please.
     
  8. GBS

    GBS Wax on..Wax off

    Obama's completely unqualified for the job with no experience at running anything. He is a very good speaker but it’s going to take a lot more than that to make a good president. I see him as a typical blood sucking layer politician who makes all kinds of promises they can never keep. Talk is cheap. I don’t think he has a clue about what he’s in for. How could he? He has never done anything.

    I believe in less government and people taking responsibility for their own life. I see him taking the country more towards socialism and a country of welfare recipients.

    I find his comments about disarming our military alarming.

    His close associates are some of the most radical people in the country. He also has known associates with ties to terrorist organizations. The philosophy of the church he went to for 20 years is very racist. I have a lot of concerns about want he really stands for.

    I would also like to add that my dislike for Obama has nothing to do with him being half Black. I am white but I have many close black friends and my wife is Asian. I judge people on the type of person they are and what they stand for.

    I hope I’m wrong about Obama and I’m certainly not sorry to see Bush go. I don’t care that much for McCain but I saw him as the better of two poor choices. McCain certainly ran a bad campaign and Obama must have out spent him 4 to 1. I’m sick of hearing about the election so at least it’s over.
     
  9. Denzil

    Denzil Guest

    Like it or not, Obama is your president if you reside in the U.S. and are a U.S. Citizen. While you may dislike the outcome, all you can really do is hope for the best and do your best as a U.S. Citizen or move to another country.

    I'm not making this statement to provoke any verbal disagreement but rather to speak the hard facts. I really do wish the best of luck for our country and I'm sure other countries do as well. :usa:
     
  10. bigfoot

    bigfoot Jedi Nuba

    Even if some people do not agree or think that Obama is not going to be a good president, history has been made!

    I see this thread closing soon...
     
  11. Dust2Glory

    Dust2Glory Nuba Guru

    I am for one scared... on the whole socialism thing, when McCain said that Obama would lead to socialism, Obama called it "opportunity" What kind of opportunity does that present?

    And I'm tired of the whole African-American card being pulled, im sorry but if you were born in the US then you are AMERICAN, plain and simple... and he's just as white as I am!

    I mean come on, I'm half Hispanic- half white... doesn't mean anything!!!!

    I pray to God that all of you that voted for Obama were right and that he is in fact fit to be our president, but if you ARE wrong...


    I'm sticking to my guns and religion
     
  12. heatgain

    heatgain Guest

    Well, we survived 8 years of Bush, I figure we're ready for anything.
     
  13. P1et

    P1et Official DB Moderator

    But was he born in the US? That's still up for debate supposedly...
     
  14. Smith2287

    Smith2287 Welcome to Detailing

    Well I didn't vote for him for sure but it is what it is now. I disagree with his theories completely but point and fact he is the president now. I hope I am wrong and he does do a good job but only time can tell now.
     
  15. joep

    joep Welcome to Detailing

    you guys are pissed now wait he's already looking to change the color of the white house and add a basketball court...lol

    oh btw,AG now carries dodo juice....ok back on topic
     
  16. makos1610

    makos1610 Two Bucket System Washer

    I'm happy that OBAMA WON. I agree with disarming plan and all his ideas. I've been praying for McCain to lose. I don't think he's a hero. He fought in a war that america lost and what's more he got cought.
     
  17. GBS

    GBS Wax on..Wax off


    It's american's like you who make me want to puke. Obama has never done anything at all let alone anything for his country.
     
  18. Hum-Benz

    Hum-Benz Wax on..Wax off

    :thumb: Anyone that serves or served in the military IS a hero! They are and were here to protect the USA......SO ANYONE THAT DOES THAT IS A HERO.

    Makos, I feel very sorry for you and your pathetic views towards anyone that served in the military protecting our country and our freedom while you were sitting on you ass whining like a 'lil baby!
     
  19. makos1610

    makos1610 Two Bucket System Washer

    Explain me one thing. Why we still have our troops in the iraq?? In the name of what. I know it's not in the name of freedom because the last time i checked America was free country.
     
  20. Bunky

    Bunky Guest

    There is no debate. You just need to check several reputable fact checker sites. It is lik ethe 9/11 consipiracy people that somehow it was all staged by government that seems incapable of doing anything right.
     
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